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02/10/2008, 4:45 PM Mr.Carrow Joined on 06/12/2003 Posts 1,806 Re: Fans should take comfort from accounts Absolutely superb Shack Attack .  Didn`t we used to ermm "robustly debate" from on here?   Don`t want to depress people further (but i`m going to anyway...!) but just imagine what the loss would look like without the £3.5m profit on players and the £1.6m valuation of the hotel stake.  But of course we`ve got nothing to worry about have we Niel....?    Report

02/10/2008, 7:54 PM Shack Attack Joined on 11/08/2005 Making a fool of Terry Butcher Posts 1,724 Re: Fans should take comfort from accounts  Mr.Carrow wrote: Absolutely superb Shack Attack .  Didn`t we used to ermm "robustly debate" from on here? Cheers Mr C Yeah I think we may have had a few disagreements in the past but I think most people are in agreement that it's time for a change these days. Posters just tend to have differing opinions about what level of blame should be apportioned to the board as opposed to the players/managers or whether the board have made genuine mistakes or are some gigantic malevolant force determined to run NCFC into the ground. That's the only real difference. I just thought it was a fairly ridiculous article which deserved to be ripped apart. Now I've patented the Shack Spin-o-Meter I might start a weekly thread looking at Mr Doncaster's column. Having said that I'll probably see something from the 'Anti-Board' lot (I hate using that term but can't think of anything else) that annoys me later and decide to take the p*ss out of that too. I guess that's the main benefit of being 'on the fence' "The ball is round. The game lasts ninety minutes. This much is fact. Everything else is pure theory."    Report

02/10/2008, 8:41 PM ellis206 Joined on 06/12/2005 Posts 481 Re: Fans should take comfort from accounts Yep because you lot know so much more about our club finances than the people who actually work at the club, the people who know exactly our income and outgoings, the people in charge say we're not going into administration, yet you lot know better don't you? I think our board need to get talking to some of you lot as you CLEARLY are experts in the finance department, and will be able to grow some money trees in and around Carrow Road and employ some local Wizards to magic some money out of thin air! But then you are the same bunch of people who were slating David Marshall last year, Slating the Doc despite voting him player of the season 2 seasons previously and having a superb season last year, called for Worthys head and then moaned at the steep decline we've had since then, accusing the board of stealing the clubs money (You'd think I was making it up really wouldn't you) and certain posters (Smudger and Co) who will not be seen until we lose a game then they amass about a 100 posts in about an hour! So to be honest I don't really pay attention to the poison you lot are trying to spread through the club, some of you have proved countless times that you are just idiots, so I have no reason to believe some of this drivel on this post about us definatly going into administration, and I will believe the board, but in 5 years time when we are still not in administration, you lot still wouldn't admit you were wrong would you? you'll be poisoning the club in another way!    Report

02/10/2008, 9:11 PM Mello Yello Joined on 03/01/2004 Norwich Posts 4,479 Re: Fans should take comfort from accounts  ellis206 wrote: Yep because you lot know so much more about our club finances than the people who actually work at the club, the people who know exactly our income and outgoings, the people in charge say we're not going into administration, yet you lot know better don't you? I think our board need to get talking to some of you lot as you CLEARLY are experts in the finance department, and will be able to grow some money trees in and around Carrow Road and employ some local Wizards to magic some money out of thin air! But then you are the same bunch of people who were slating David Marshall last year, Slating the Doc despite voting him player of the season 2 seasons previously and having a superb season last year, called for Worthys head and then moaned at the steep decline we've had since then, accusing the board of stealing the clubs money (You'd think I was making it up really wouldn't you) and certain posters (Smudger and Co) who will not be seen until we lose a game then they amass about a 100 posts in about an hour! So to be honest I don't really pay attention to the poison you lot are trying to spread through the club, some of you have proved countless times that you are just idiots, so I have no reason to believe some of this drivel on this post about us definatly going into administration, and I will believe the board, but in 5 years time when we are still not in administration, you lot still wouldn't admit you were wrong would you? you'll be poisoning the club in another way! Don't forget, it's now time for you true fan "ear'less 4x2", to reserve a front row seat at the impending NCFC AGM........Polish your welly boots, scrape the brylcreem off your anorak hood, bring Delia's latest Cooky Booky with you for her to sign - and practise your best hissin', booin' and tut, tut, tuttin' - in preparation for them 'higorant minority' that dare to question those wunnerful Directioneer's.   "Give 'em enough rope"......    Report

02/10/2008, 9:39 PM TIL 1010 Joined on 20/01/2008 Posts 307 Re: Fans should take comfort from accounts So DS and MWJ have now committed an eight figure sum over the years. Question is what are their 357,000 shares valued at? So even Charlton have a net debt of £23 million. Would that be the same Charlton that the current board in recent years time and again offered up as a role model to follow? So cup runs are now described as lucrative. Seem to remember the chief Executive telling us that no money is to be made from cup runs and in fact the play off games cost us money!    Report

07/10/2008, 8:40 PM Mello Yello Joined on 03/01/2004 Norwich Posts 4,479 Re: Fans should take comfort from accounts Are the finances robust?.....Or, go bust? "Give 'em enough rope"......    Report

08/10/2008, 6:18 PM Saint Canary Joined on 11/12/2003 Southampton Posts 2,786 Re: Fans should take comfort from accounts  ellis206 wrote: Yep because you lot know so much more about our club finances than the people who actually work at the club, the people who know exactly our income and outgoings, the people in charge say we're not going into administration, yet you lot know better don't you? I think our board need to get talking to some of you lot as you CLEARLY are experts in the finance department, and will be able to grow some money trees in and around Carrow Road and employ some local Wizards to magic some money out of thin air! But then you are the same bunch of people who were slating David Marshall last year, Slating the Doc despite voting him player of the season 2 seasons previously and having a superb season last year, called for Worthys head and then moaned at the steep decline we've had since then, accusing the board of stealing the clubs money (You'd think I was making it up really wouldn't you) and certain posters (Smudger and Co) who will not be seen until we lose a game then they amass about a 100 posts in about an hour! So to be honest I don't really pay attention to the poison you lot are trying to spread through the club, some of you have proved countless times that you are just idiots, so I have no reason to believe some of this drivel on this post about us definatly going into administration, and I will believe the board, but in 5 years time when we are still not in administration, you lot still wouldn't admit you were wrong would you? you'll be poisoning the club in another way! Apparently though Nick Leeson, Lehman Bros and Landsbanki knew far more about "finance" than we all do too........................  However, another nice "I am better fan than you" post. I don't think the club are going into administration but I do think Doncaster "doth protest too much" about the rumours.  Why can't people, especially Doncaster not understand that some might wonder about the solvency of the club when a just a few days ago they announced we have had  to get the begging bowl out to pay for one months wages again.  It doesn't really suggest the club are in a "robust" position does it? I'm not saying it was your fault, although you could have done more.    Report

08/10/2008, 7:30 PM The Prisoner Joined on 04/01/2006 Posts 951 Re: Fans should take comfort from accounts Shack Attack that was brilliant thank you!! Think we are more skint than ever we were in 1996 though. Still on the bright side at the current rate we'll have repaid that securitisation deal back in just another 94 years and that will give us a full 50 years to save up the money to replace the hotel with an infill so we won't need to borrow for that either. And in the fashion pages I note the Emperor has some nice new clothes.......... NCFC ~ The clue is in the "F" in name. We get in but we don't have fun An' we leave before the truncheons So it's back to watch the day to day Saga of working people Hanging out the washing and clipping coupons And generally being decent    Report

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