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11/12/2007, 2:55 PM kick it off Joined on 15/11/2005 Posts 696 Re: bangura of watford deported If he is an illegal immigrant, then he has no right to be here regardless of how much tax he pays. Many are making the point about illegal immigrants collecting benefits and not working - ummmm surely if theyre illegally here, A) They wouldnt go to the government for money? B) They would not be entitled to benefits as they are illegal? C) They're not allowed to work, if they are seeking asylum, slightly harsh to criticize them, for not being allowed to work, if they were lumped in with 'illegal immigrants' as they so often are. There are plenty of British people who's businesses are registered in the Cayman Islands, to dodge their taxes, maybe if the government spent a little more time chasing the rich exploiting millions out of the system by dodging taxes, then they would have enough money to update their systems, and work out who's meant to be here and who's not. IMO He deserves to go, but it does make you wonder. Why send someone who pays a six figure tax sum home, and let the rich businessmen dwell here without paying a single penny in tax?    Report

11/12/2007, 3:04 PM BigFish Joined on 26/08/2003 Posts 379 Re: bangura of watford deported  Arthur Whittle wrote: They should all be deported. If there is an englishman who can do the same job then there is no need for that person to be allowed in this country. If however they can add to this country and not leach off it like most do-i dont just mean football-then they should be kicked out or better still not be allowed here in the first place. Why should someone who is born and bred in this country not be given a chance because a "forigner" will do it cheaper. Thats not how i run business and never will. Its not racist, its a princible. I dont care wheteher someones black brown or yellow as long as they are english and can do a job. Given a choice between an assylum seeker and you, Arthur, I'd deport you!    Report

11/12/2007, 3:12 PM slater Joined on 10/11/2007 norwich Posts 21 Why does he 'deserve to go'? 95% in agreement with you KIA but I don't get why you think Bangoura should be returned. London has loads of Australians, South Africans and New Zealanders working in bars etc? Do they have to go too? Bangoura has a better moral case than them - he's working, paying tax and is likely to be persecuted if he goes back. Btw, I'm perfectly happy for the Aussies etc to be here if anyone's wondering. Not so sure about some of the South Ifricans though. But that's just me being prejudiced against white people.    Report

11/12/2007, 3:14 PM N/A Joined on 16/06/2007 Posts 2,892 Re: bangura of watford deported  BigFish wrote:  Arthur Whittle wrote: They should all be deported. If there is an englishman who can do the same job then there is no need for that person to be allowed in this country. If however they can add to this country and not leach off it like most do-i dont just mean football-then they should be kicked out or better still not be allowed here in the first place. Why should someone who is born and bred in this country not be given a chance because a "forigner" will do it cheaper. Thats not how i run business and never will. Its not racist, its a princible. I dont care wheteher someones black brown or yellow as long as they are english and can do a job. Given a choice between an assylum seeker and you, Arthur, I'd deport you! i 2nd that mate, why shouldnt he be given the chance?? if he is capable and he has shown that then why doesnt he deserve a chance??? just because he born on the other side of the world shouldnt put him at disadvantage. i would agree and say deport him if he was doing nothing showed no work ethic or desires but this kid has been blessed with a skill many in the world would die for and they want to take this away from him i myself think the appeal will be succesful    Report

11/12/2007, 3:24 PM 1st Wizard Joined on 04/10/2003 Far beyond the lonely mountains. Posts 6,538 Re: bangura of watford deported  The Drop wrote: If he is an illegal immigrant then he should be deported , far far to many of them running around this country. Here here, far too many of the sods here as it is! put that in your PC pipe and smoke it!.    Report

11/12/2007, 3:27 PM Shack Attack Joined on 11/08/2005 Posts 1,292 Re: bangura of watford deported  Arthur Whittle wrote: They should all be deported. How very caring of you Arthur. Al Bangura fled Sierra Leone four years ago to escape civil war and very possibly death. I presume you would have just sent him back.  Arthur Whittle wrote:  If there is an englishman who can do the same job then there is no need for that person to be allowed in this country. Whether an Englishman can do the job isn't really the problem, it's whether they will do the job. Too many are prepared to sit on their arse, scratching themselves and watching Jeremy Kyle.  Arthur Whittle wrote: If however they can add to this country and not leach off it like most do. I assume you've got some stats that back up that rather sweeping generalisation Arthur  Arthur Whittle wrote: Why should someone who is born and bred in this country not be given a chance because a "forigner" will do it cheaper. I believe it's something to do with the free market Arthur. The person who's born and bred in this country could always do it cheaper or perhaps to a far superior standard. But then they wouldn't have any spare cash to spend on 50" televisions and holidays to Benidorm.  Arthur Whittle wrote:   Thats not how i run business and never will. Its not racist, its a princible. I dont care wheteher someones black brown or yellow as long as they are english and can do a job. So you won't dicriminate against somebody because of the colour of their skin but you will because of their nationality. Congratulations you are only half a bigot. "The ball is round. The game lasts ninety minutes. This much is fact. Everything else is pure theory."    Report

11/12/2007, 3:29 PM BlyBlyBabes Joined on 31/10/2003 Posts 3,036 Re: bangura of watford deported  we8wba wrote:  Beaker wrote:  we8wba wrote: i think it is completly stupid he has been deported for being illegal imigrant i dont mind if this is the rule for all people, but they let so many people into our country who do nothing but live of our taxes and this player who is actually making a very good living has been destroyed due to the home office just wondered if everyone thought the same as me? without getting to political on the topic w8wba, you're not telling me that you actually have a job? if you do you do well to spend so much time on a different clubs messageboard for the nhs mate, and you wonder why they doing so succesfully dont you ;-p as to blybly people like you are just why the world is a poor place mate, taking dig for me mocking the death of two footballing legends is so classy of you mate, hard kock you are, decent bloke your not The modern world is a pretty good place mate. My glass is half full. But it seems to me the NHS needs to get rid of illiterate parasites using computer and other state resources to swan around the internet and play out obsessions on other peoples message boards. Decent blokes? Somebody should suss out their isps and shop them. Then the NHS would have some more resources to help the sick. I repeat Stan Cullis and Billy Wright must be turning in their graves when they read some of the illiterate crap written by a modern Wolves fan. You should feel very lucky that you live in a thriving democracy. OTBC       Ken Nethercott/Sandy Kennon; Bryan Thurlow, Ron Ashman; Roy McCrohan, Barry Butler, Matt Crowe; Errol Crossan, Terry Allcock, Terry Bly, Jimmy Hill, Bobby Brennan    Report

11/12/2007, 3:41 PM NegativeVibes Joined on 10/10/2007 Posts 645 Re: bangura of watford deported  Kathy wrote: Good. He wont be scoring against us then. I think he has scored one goal in his career?    Report

11/12/2007, 3:47 PM Arthur Whittle OBE Joined on 12/07/2007 St Stephens subway, drinking meths Posts 1,805 Re: bangura of watford deported  we8wba wrote:  BigFish wrote:  Arthur Whittle wrote: They should all be deported. If there is an englishman who can do the same job then there is no need for that person to be allowed in this country. If however they can add to this country and not leach off it like most do-i dont just mean football-then they should be kicked out or better still not be allowed here in the first place. Why should someone who is born and bred in this country not be given a chance because a "forigner" will do it cheaper. Thats not how i run business and never will. Its not racist, its a princible. I dont care wheteher someones black brown or yellow as long as they are english and can do a job. Given a choice between an assylum seeker and you, Arthur, I'd deport you! i 2nd that mate, why shouldnt he be given the chance?? if he is capable and he has shown that then why doesnt he deserve a chance??? just because he born on the other side of the world shouldnt put him at disadvantage. i would agree and say deport him if he was doing nothing showed no work ethic or desires but this kid has been blessed with a skill many in the world would die for and they want to take this away from him i myself think the appeal will be succesful So when you lose out on a job to a Polishman or Albanian who will do a crap job but for less money just remeber where i was coming from. Id rather buy fish and chips than Ameobi!    Report

11/12/2007, 4:03 PM kick it off Joined on 15/11/2005 Posts 696 Re: bangura of watford deported  BigFish wrote:  Arthur Whittle wrote: They should all be deported. If there is an englishman who can do the same job then there is no need for that person to be allowed in this country. If however they can add to this country and not leach off it like most do-i dont just mean football-then they should be kicked out or better still not be allowed here in the first place. Why should someone who is born and bred in this country not be given a chance because a "forigner" will do it cheaper. Thats not how i run business and never will. Its not racist, its a princible. I dont care wheteher someones black brown or yellow as long as they are english and can do a job. Given a choice between an assylum seeker and you, Arthur, I'd deport you! I'd third that. I said i thought he shopuld go - but i thought he was illegal. as an asylum seeker he has every right to stay here. Arthur - it appears you dont understand racism and believe you can only be racist towards somebody's skin colour. This is simply wrong. A race of people is any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race. (According to dictionary.com). 'I don't care whether someones black brown or yellow, as long as they are English and can do a job' - that IS RACIST. Just the same as if you'd said, i don't care what country they are from as long as they are white. I have had this discussion before (havent we shyster lol) but there may be English people who can do the job, but the ugly fact of the matter is there are many Brits who are happy to sit in their council houses and recieve benefits rather than work. It is an indictment of the government that it is more lucrative not to work, and have 10kids, than it is to do a 'menial job' that most of these immigrants do. There are many many lazy English people who choose not to work. I'm not talking about people who cant work, people who simply don't want to. If you were to rid this country of immigration then you would have to eliminate or severely restructure not only the benefit system but also the attitudes of these people. Otherwise there would not be anyone to fill  the empty jobs. It is not a case of foreigners doing it cheaper. There is the minimum wage structure for those who are here legally, and for those who are not, how many English people do you know that aspire to pick fruit for £10 per day? Are you by default saying that English people should not be allowed to emigrate to Spain, if there is a Spanish person who can do that job? 'If they can add to this country then they should be kicked out or better still, not allowed here in the first place' - I'd argue that this is also a racist statement. If they can add to this country, iut will make it a better country surely? You don't want a better country at the expense of a few foreigners being allowed here? That is sad. Should we also send the dentistry profession into further crisis by sending back the 3000 Polish dentists the government  took in 2004? You say foreign labour comes here and works cheaper then the Brits, but when your own government actively goes to another country and seeks out workers, offers more money for them to come here, it rather destroys your perception of a foreign invading workforce doesn't it? New plan boys - Lets send: Marshall back to Scotland, Camara back to Guinea, Pattison back to South Africa, Fozzy back to Scotland, Russell back to Jamaica(?!) Ched back to Wales and see where we end up with a team of born and bred Englishmen.    Report

11/12/2007, 4:09 PM N/A Joined on 16/06/2007 Posts 2,892 Re: bangura of watford deported  Shack Attack wrote:  Arthur Whittle wrote: They should all be deported. How very caring of you Arthur. Al Bangura fled Sierra Leone four years ago to escape civil war and very possibly death. I presume you would have just sent him back.  Arthur Whittle wrote:  If there is an englishman who can do the same job then there is no need for that person to be allowed in this country. Whether an Englishman can do the job isn't really the problem, it's whether they will do the job. Too many are prepared to sit on their arse, scratching themselves and watching Jeremy Kyle.  Arthur Whittle wrote: If however they can add to this country and not leach off it like most do. I assume you've got some stats that back up that rather sweeping generalisation Arthur  Arthur Whittle wrote: Why should someone who is born and bred in this country not be given a chance because a "forigner" will do it cheaper. I believe it's something to do with the free market Arthur. The person who's born and bred in this country could always do it cheaper or perhaps to a far superior standard. But then they wouldn't have any spare cash to spend on 50" televisions and holidays to Benidorm.  Arthur Whittle wrote:   Thats not how i run business and never will. Its not racist, its a princible. I dont care wheteher someones black brown or yellow as long as they are english and can do a job. So you won't dicriminate against somebody because of the colour of their skin but you will because of their nationality. Congratulations you are only half a bigot. great points, i wont even go on about my own, you compltetly gave the right answers to all the wrong questions    Report

11/12/2007, 4:12 PM Fellas Joined on 15/11/2005 Posts 1,403 Re: bangura of watford deported Sigh. Sad news. Whilst we keep all the criminals in this country actual people who are at risk of being persecuted are sent back to almost certain persecution. I just hope for his sake that he is able to get a visa and play in another european country where he can live his life in safety. The system is a disgrace that things like this should happen. I hope all you saying good ridence look at yourselves, this guy was here on asylum from sierra leone and paid his taxes (a lot more than a lot of 'british' citizens).    Report

11/12/2007, 4:12 PM buddhistguy Joined on 28/07/2007 Posts 1,327 Re: bangura of watford deported THE ONLY CAUGHT HIM BECAUSE HE HAS A CAREER, he should of stayed on the benefits or be a doctor...they would never know... but in my opinion, i am gutted for the lad, ive seen sierra leone and honestly, i would chew my arm off rather than let some gang member chop it. i hope he gets back in.. jesus christ, its buddha!!!!!!!!!!    Report

11/12/2007, 4:16 PM N/A Joined on 16/06/2007 Posts 2,892 Re: bangura of watford deported mate you heard about breaks at all? do you realise that i post not every minute and thats why i post in bundles? do you realise not everyone has 9-5 job, do you realise that you are the one indeed making an idiot out of their clubs name and not me. i have worked hard to be were i am mate, and unlike yourself who probably dossed about at work and now wondering why they are a street cleaner. seriosuly mate if your not above the age of 14 then you got ALOT of growing up to do. because im sure there 20k worse wolves fans then me giving us a supposedly bad name for using a message board, yes the finest of wolverhampton must be livid    Report

11/12/2007, 4:17 PM buddhistguy Joined on 28/07/2007 Posts 1,327 bangura petition http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-al-bangura ive signed it... i think we all need 2 say what we think... jesus christ, its buddha!!!!!!!!!!    Report

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