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05/10/2008, 10:09 AM Canary Pirate Joined on 04/01/2007 Swanton Morley Posts 320 Crowd atmosphere Top championship attendance ( generally only beaten when Derby play at home ) again ! Despite 24,711 hardy ( insane ? ) souls turning up again, the atmosphere was just.....well.....missing. Reasons ? imo having failed to score in the first 45 mins ( in any league game apart from Plymouth ) we are clearly waiting for the team to produce something ( preferrably a goal ) to get our andrenalin going to enable us to provide the required vocal support, but basically nothing happens apart from we fall a goal behind. Even after we equalised yesterday its as if we didnt really believe we would go on and win the game, but to lose it was a shock ! At least when we had Hucks ( regardless of what we felt about him ) he was our hero, there was always that anticipation, excitement, adrenalin rush when he got the ball, now...... nothing. It seems we are desperately trying to find someone ( good ) with, whom we can say, he's ours, Norwich through and through, but there just isnt. We are treated to a stream of loan players whom we fail to identify with and whom probably fail to identify with us( and whats the point of getting excited about someone who will be gone next month anyway ). Before you ask for our undying vocal support before the next home game Glenn, please try and appreciate why it can be extremely difficult. What do you all think, am I missing something here or what ???  BRISTOL ROVERS - " PIRATES OF THE CARROWBEAN "    Report

05/10/2008, 10:18 AM wayne kerr Joined on 09/12/2007 Posts 299 Re: Crowd atmosphere Its strange at the moment , and i think you hit the nail on the head,  over the last few seasons even though  the players have been  crap at least there our crap  not someone elses. i`m not slating the loan  players but as i looked out across the pitch yesterday it looked more like a team cobbled together for a testomonial  i found it hard to identify with any of them. Where as before when we`ve been getting battered at least there was a bit of togetherness between the players and the fans  that we were in it together now theres just a big empty void  and i don`t see how it can be filled any time soon,. We`re missing hucks and dion  as talismen, focal points whatever term you`d like to use and its affecting the atmosphere badly. Worrying times indeed    Report

05/10/2008, 10:22 AM CT feels helpless :( Joined on 21/02/2006 cambridge Posts 4,207 Re: Crowd atmosphere  Canary Pirate wrote: Top championship attendance ( generally only beaten when Derby play at home ) again ! Despite 24,711 hardy ( insane ? ) souls turning up again, the atmosphere was just.....well.....missing. Reasons ? imo having failed to score in the first 45 mins ( in any league game apart from Plymouth ) we are clearly waiting for the team to produce something ( preferrably a goal ) to get our andrenalin going to enable us to provide the required vocal support, but basically nothing happens apart from we fall a goal behind. Even after we equalised yesterday its as if we didnt really believe we would go on and win the game, but to lose it was a shock ! At least when we had Hucks ( regardless of what we felt about him ) he was our hero, there was always that anticipation, excitement, adrenalin rush when he got the ball, now...... nothing. It seems we are desperately trying to find someone ( good ) with, whom we can say, he's ours, Norwich through and through, but there just isnt. We are treated to a stream of loan players whom we fail to identify with and whom probably fail to identify with us( and whats the point of getting excited about someone who will be gone next month anyway ). Before you ask for our undying vocal support before the next home game Glenn, please try and appreciate why it can be extremely difficult. What do you all think, am I missing something here or what ???  with a crowd as big as that (24k plus) you cannot criticise the fans. We hardly had anything to shout about did we? Can we get a manager on loan? :D    Report

05/10/2008, 10:36 AM ROBFLECK Joined on 28/06/2008 Posts 143 Re: Crowd atmosphere Nothing to shout about, no technical ability of any notice... means no real atmosphere, just fans on the edge of their seats, afraid for something to wrong...   We want to see performance of note, asap!    Report

05/10/2008, 10:56 AM jbghost Joined on 13/03/2008 Posts 174 Re: Crowd atmosphere It's difficult to support a team of mercenaries who at the end of the day will go back to their copmfortable lifestyle at their own clubs. The team that walks onto the pitch in yellow and green is not Norwich City.   Get rid of all the loan players and start building a team for the future. This season is finished already.    Report

05/10/2008, 10:58 AM Lord Flashheart Joined on 29/06/2008 Posts 229 Re: Crowd atmosphere And it'll be even more finished after we've played ten more games. "Thanks bridesmaid, LIKE the beard! Gimme something to HANG on to!"    Report

05/10/2008, 11:00 AM Carlos Valderrama Joined on 24/07/2006 Posts 1,524 Re: Crowd atmosphere There might be some truth in this.  Send back the pointless, Omozusi, Archibald Henville and Sibierski.  Keep Bertrand, Lupoli and Kennedy and throw some of the kids amongst them.    Report

05/10/2008, 11:41 AM city4eva Joined on 02/01/2005 Posts 53 Re: Crowd atmosphere  Canary Pirate wrote: Top championship attendance ( generally only beaten when Derby play at home ) again ! Despite 24,711 hardy ( insane ? ) souls turning up again, the atmosphere was just.....well.....missing. Reasons ? imo having failed to score in the first 45 mins ( in any league game apart from Plymouth ) we are clearly waiting for the team to produce something ( preferrably a goal ) to get our andrenalin going to enable us to provide the required vocal support, but basically nothing happens apart from we fall a goal behind. Even after we equalised yesterday its as if we didnt really believe we would go on and win the game, but to lose it was a shock ! At least when we had Hucks ( regardless of what we felt about him ) he was our hero, there was always that anticipation, excitement, adrenalin rush when he got the ball, now...... nothing. It seems we are desperately trying to find someone ( good ) with, whom we can say, he's ours, Norwich through and through, but there just isnt. We are treated to a stream of loan players whom we fail to identify with and whom probably fail to identify with us( and whats the point of getting excited about someone who will be gone next month anyway ). Before you ask for our undying vocal support before the next home game Glenn, please try and appreciate why it can be extremely difficult. What do you all think, am I missing something here or what ???    Great post and probably sums up how most are feeling, just to add , what is the point of Sibierski, does he actually contribute anything?    Report

05/10/2008, 12:26 PM Mr_Chimp Joined on 03/02/2006 attleborough Posts 277 Re: Crowd atmosphere My season ticket is in the Snakepit, and while it started well it got very, very nasty towards the end of the match.  Don't know if anyone sits in the Watling stand just adjacent to the SP (literally the column next to the tunnel to the bar), but there was something going on with a young lad and his dad - couple of blokes, one in particular, where giving him what looked like a nasty bollocking.  The kid looked pretty upset as well - anyone know what was going on there? Also: what happened with the dude on cutches around the 80 min mark?  Looked like someone tried to pinch his sticks?  As I say, not nice at all. -- Never mind the danger --    Report

05/10/2008, 12:28 PM jetstream Joined on 30/04/2006 norwich Posts 877 Re: Crowd atmosphere Like it or not, the lower Barclay tend to create that 'atmosphere' and lead the rest of the ground in the singing and have a responsibility/duty to start things off. What a mistake the Club made doing up that bar under the Barclay. Yesterday it was noticeable that the LB was virtually empty 20 minutes before the match. Too busy supping pints down in the plush bar to be outside creating any kind of atmosphere while the Derby mascot was dancing in front of the away fans and encouraging them to make more noise (which they did). 38 minutes of a virtually silent first half gone and the Lower Barclay start to stream away down to the bar to watch the end of the first half on their plasma screens. Second half kicks off and the Lower Barclay slowly re-appears from the bar (2-3 minutes after the re-start) and a small chorus of 'Y'army' starts up then fizzles out. We score and there's suddenly some noise. We spend 10-15 minutes looking like we might go on to win the game and there's even a round of 'On The Ball City" for the first time. Then it all falls flat again. Second goal goes in, fans start to stream away with 5 minutes plus injury time to go. OK, it's a chicken-egg thing if the players are not performing but I find games like yesterday quite embarrassing. OK, I sit in the City Stand and no amount of shouting out the start of a song/chant is EVER going to get anything going but I blame: a) the Club for making the bar too comfy b) the Lower Barclay for being more interested in drinking and texting their mates instead of creating an atmosphere Switch off the plasma screens in there and you might start to make a change. Play things like 'Daydream Believer' again over the PA and that might help. I was listening to the radio commentary of some UEAFA Cup game this week on 5 Live and the home fans (somewhere in Easter Europe) had been in the ground, singing at the top of their voices for an hour before kick-off, building the atmosphere up and up and up until the players arrived. How intimidating is that for the away team?    Report

05/10/2008, 9:53 PM SnakepitCanary Joined on 27/05/2008 Wymondham Posts 232 Re: Crowd atmosphere  Mr_Chimp wrote: My season ticket is in the Snakepit, and while it started well it got very, very nasty towards the end of the match.  Don't know if anyone sits in the Watling stand just adjacent to the SP (literally the column next to the tunnel to the bar), but there was something going on with a young lad and his dad - couple of blokes, one in particular, where giving him what looked like a nasty bollocking.  The kid looked pretty upset as well - anyone know what was going on there? Also: what happened with the dude on cutches around the 80 min mark?  Looked like someone tried to pinch his sticks?  As I say, not nice at all. At the start of the game, us in the Snakepit were singing quite loudly because the stewards were trying to get people to sit down, people were already argueing with them at the start of the game. I saw that incident Mr Chimp, I don't know what it was about but the guy argueing with the Dad was very aggressive (this was at the start of the second half). Then when we went 2-1 down I saw the other guy slap the Dad a few times. After the game I think they went upto the stewards and complained. Hopefully we will not see him again.    Report

06/10/2008, 12:05 AM Mr_Chimp Joined on 03/02/2006 attleborough Posts 277 Re: Crowd atmosphere You're just a man in a jacket... All seemed pretty good humoured though.  As you say, the second half was pretty awful, fans turning on fans is pretty shoddy at the best/worst of times, but picking on a kid is a little beyond the pale.  Was pretty shocked no-one over there made a real effort to get between him and the kid, but I guess in today's climate no-one wants to get involved. Actually, having said that, a guy in row E (where I sit) sparked a fag up and the one woman who did tell him to stop got the 'your highness' sarcastic treatment.  Horrible day all round. -- Never mind the danger --    Report

06/10/2008, 11:37 AM votepedro Joined on 06/05/2004 Posts 39 Re: Crowd atmosphere it would help if, just occasionally, fans in the jarrold, river end, upper barclay and dare i say it, the main stand, got involved. it makes such a difference when a song goes around the ground and would keep the lower barclay interested. get your hands out from under those rugs!    Report

06/10/2008, 11:49 AM WeAreYellows49 Joined on 11/12/2007 Dereham Posts 4,401 Re: Crowd atmosphere  votepedro wrote: it would help if, just occasionally, fans in the jarrold, river end, upper barclay and dare i say it, the main stand, got involved. it makes such a difference when a song goes around the ground and would keep the lower barclay interested. get your hands out from under those rugs!   Very well said, the Lower Barclay and the snakepit aren't the only fans in the ground.  Maybe, just maybe we get fed up of people expecting it from us all the time. Formerly - MightyYellows God how I wish I were a tomato in the sun and warmth, instead of being a mushroom, kept in the dark and fed.... ....    Report

06/10/2008, 12:04 PM Rasputin was a C... Joined on 17/11/2003 Norwich - A Fine City Posts 1,427 Re: Crowd atmosphere I think in the River End where some people need a little bit of encouragement at times could get a bit of noise going. That is however, before they brought in this bloody family area thing. That message they play before the game and all the bloody signs everywhere saying "Don't say *** or bugger" probably puts people off even more. I really don't know why they even have to call it the family area... its the River End isn't it?    Report

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