Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing

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Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


ncfclad 13/05/2008, 3:14 PM

Just been having look at our transfer fees from the last 3 years. Doncaster said before the Earnie sale that the £2m loan from the turners will mean we wont need to sell any players. So lets look at the fees just for this season. There is a profit of £3.4m this season from transfer fees plus the £1.1m that we dont need to pay for Strihavka that we agreed earlier on this season.

So we should have around £4.5m to spend this summer, obviously that is unlikely.

2007/08 Season IN Matty Pattison £500,000


David Strihavka £240,000


Jamie Cureton £800,000


Darel Russell £410,000


David Marshall £1,000,000 £2,950,000






OUT Joe Lewis £400,000


Chris Brown £400,000


Robert Earnshaw £3,500,000


Dickson Etuhu £1,500,000


Youssef Safri £250,000


Andy Hughes £200,000


Jurgen Colin £100,000 £6,350,000





2006/07 Season IN Chris Brown £275,000


Simon Lappin £50,000


Luke Chadwick £200,000


Lee Croft £700,000 £1,225,000






OUT Leon Mckenzie £600,000


Robert Green £2,000,000 £2,600,000










2005/06 Season IN Robert Earnshaw £3,000,000


Dickson Etuhu £600,000


Jurgen Colin £260,000


Andy Hughes £500,000


Carl Robinson £50,000 £4,410,000






OUT Dean Ashton £7,125,000


Damien Francis £2,250,000


Thomas Helveg £169,000


Mattias Svensson £100,000


Mattias Jonson £700,000 £10,344,000










Total Incoming

£8,585,000

Outgoing

£19,294,000

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


blahblahblah 13/05/2008, 3:18 PM
Unfortunately, it's not quite that straightforward.  Transfer fees are only a small part of the overall cost of employing a player.  Also, there is no mention of loan fees, or signing on fees for free transfers.
On the Ball City - Never Mind...

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


we8wba 13/05/2008, 3:22 PM

what about maitence work? training and youth development?

cheif exectuvie take few hundred thousand im sure

as mentioned above sadly its not that easy


two more wins wolves and we have enough points to keep us up

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


ncfclad 13/05/2008, 3:24 PM
Of course its difficult to include all that as we dont know how much it cost, I just thought it was interesting to see how much on transfer fees alone.

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


kdncfc 13/05/2008, 3:36 PM
Even allowing for any other fees I'd be very surprised if there wasn't at least a 7 million profit on player trading, even if half of that had been reinvested we'd be in a far better state than we are now.

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


colneycanary 13/05/2008, 4:01 PM
Different story his summer though! We don't have anyone who is worth much, apart from Croft and Marshall maybe. Its going to be all money going out with very little coming in.

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


blahblahblah 13/05/2008, 4:01 PM

 kdncfc wrote:
Even allowing for any other fees I'd be very surprised if there wasn't at least a 7 million profit on player trading, even if half of that had been reinvested we'd be in a far better state than we are now.

Would 3 years worth of loans come to about 3.5 million do you reckon ?  I do.


On the Ball City - Never Mind...

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


ricardo 13/05/2008, 4:10 PM

The truth is that we have always been a club that buys cheap and sells big.

It's been going on ever since I can remember and thats over 50 years.

Do not believe any claptrap coming out of Carrow Road that claims that any transfer income is put towards new players.

It never has been and never will be the case.

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


Citizen Journalist Foghorn 13/05/2008, 4:11 PM
Agents fees arent a great deal, im sure they are published each year in the press.
OTBC

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


Felixfan 13/05/2008, 4:35 PM

It is a fact of life that bums on seats do not pay the wages so the shortfall has to be met from profits on player sales,parachute money or the much maligned off-field activity.

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


The Lord 13/05/2008, 4:35 PM

I think 'ncfc lad' realises there is more to it finacially then ins and outs of transfer fees, but never-the-less its still an interesting post as its nice to see what we actually paid and recieved for players

for those that simply see the numbers don't forget the vast majority of these transfers such as ashton, the money recieved will not all arrive in the same financial period, often its in installments and probably set-off against building costs, other players wages, non-playing staff and sundry costs to name a few


I play for ASDA FC alongside Ameobi and Carl Cort

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


1st Wazzock 13/05/2008, 4:55 PM
 ncfclad wrote:

Just been having look at our transfer fees from the last 3 years. Doncaster said before the Earnie sale that the £2m loan from the turners will mean we wont need to sell any players. So lets look at the fees just for this season. There is a profit of £3.4m this season from transfer fees plus the £1.1m that we dont need to pay for Strihavka that we agreed earlier on this season.

So we should have around £4.5m to spend this summer, obviously that is unlikely.

2007/08 Season IN Matty Pattison £500,000


David Strihavka £240,000


Jamie Cureton £800,000


Darel Russell £410,000


David Marshall £1,000,000 £2,950,000






OUT Joe Lewis £400,000


Chris Brown £400,000


Robert Earnshaw £3,500,000


Dickson Etuhu £1,500,000


Youssef Safri £250,000


Andy Hughes £200,000


Jurgen Colin £100,000 £6,350,000





2006/07 Season IN Chris Brown £275,000


Simon Lappin £50,000


Luke Chadwick £200,000


Lee Croft £700,000 £1,225,000






OUT Leon Mckenzie £600,000


Robert Green £2,000,000 £2,600,000










2005/06 Season IN Robert Earnshaw £3,000,000


Dickson Etuhu £600,000


Jurgen Colin £260,000


Andy Hughes £500,000


Carl Robinson £50,000 £4,410,000






OUT Dean Ashton £7,125,000


Damien Francis £2,250,000


Thomas Helveg £169,000


Mattias Svensson £100,000


Mattias Jonson £700,000 £10,344,000










Total Incoming

£8,585,000

Outgoing

£19,294,000

Looks to me like they have pumped loads of money in Big Smile [:D]

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


Mr.Carrow 13/05/2008, 5:01 PM
It all has to be viewed in the context of the fact that the club have received £14m parachute payments over and above ordinary income during that period, which should have allowed the managers far more scope in the transfer market.

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


Jonny 5 13/05/2008, 7:16 PM
A lot of the fees aren't straight lump sums either, I'm pretty sure with McKenzie and Green we receive the money slowly depending on apprences/goals. Also half the transfer fees published in the press are guesses or the clubs straight out lying. And ever time a player signs a new contract they will get a nice signing on fee, and all the "free" transfers have one off payments to the players so it really is impossible to tell.

I do think we have taken more than we have spent, but if you add in the season before when we bought Hucks, McKenzie etc then it might start to even out a bit.

I think there will be cash for Roeder, a few million I guess. I also think nearly every transfer fee will be "undisclosed" as it is never polite to go around shouting how much money you have Smile [:)]

Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing


kdncfc 13/05/2008, 7:24 PM

 Jonny 5 wrote:
A lot of the fees aren't straight lump sums either, I'm pretty sure with McKenzie and Green we receive the money slowly depending on apprences/goals. Also half the transfer fees published in the press are guesses or the clubs straight out lying. And ever time a player signs a new contract they will get a nice signing on fee, and all the "free" transfers have one off payments to the players so it really is impossible to tell.

I do think we have taken more than we have spent, but if you add in the season before when we bought Hucks, McKenzie etc then it might start to even out a bit.

I think there will be cash for Roeder, a few million I guess. I also think nearly every transfer fee will be "undisclosed" as it is never polite to go around shouting how much money you have Smile [:)]

A lot of the fees were recieved in instalments but you can also buy players and pay for them in stages so it doesn't really make any difference as long as you know you are going to get the money.

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