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13/05/2008, 3:14 PM ncfclad Joined on 29/04/2008 Posts 280 Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing Just been having look at our transfer fees from the last 3 years. Doncaster said before the Earnie sale that the £2m loan from the turners will mean we wont need to sell any players. So lets look at the fees just for this season. There is a profit of £3.4m this season from transfer fees plus the £1.1m that we dont need to pay for Strihavka that we agreed earlier on this season. So we should have around £4.5m to spend this summer, obviously that is unlikely. 2007/08 Season IN Matty Pattison £500,000 David Strihavka £240,000 Jamie Cureton £800,000 Darel Russell £410,000 David Marshall £1,000,000 £2,950,000 OUT Joe Lewis £400,000 Chris Brown £400,000 Robert Earnshaw £3,500,000 Dickson Etuhu £1,500,000 Youssef Safri £250,000 Andy Hughes £200,000 Jurgen Colin £100,000 £6,350,000 2006/07 Season IN Chris Brown £275,000 Simon Lappin £50,000 Luke Chadwick £200,000 Lee Croft £700,000 £1,225,000 OUT Leon Mckenzie £600,000 Robert Green £2,000,000 £2,600,000 2005/06 Season IN Robert Earnshaw £3,000,000 Dickson Etuhu £600,000 Jurgen Colin £260,000 Andy Hughes £500,000 Carl Robinson £50,000 £4,410,000 OUT Dean Ashton £7,125,000 Damien Francis £2,250,000 Thomas Helveg £169,000 Mattias Svensson £100,000 Mattias Jonson £700,000 £10,344,000 Total Incoming £8,585,000 Outgoing £19,294,000    Report

13/05/2008, 3:18 PM blahblahblah Joined on 11/05/2006 Nutty Nigels' Fence - Getting Splinters Posts 3,687 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing Unfortunately, it's not quite that straightforward.  Transfer fees are only a small part of the overall cost of employing a player.  Also, there is no mention of loan fees, or signing on fees for free transfers. It's getting a bit busy on this fence, nigel...    Report

13/05/2008, 3:22 PM N/A Joined on 16/06/2007 Posts 2,892 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing what about maitence work? training and youth development? cheif exectuvie take few hundred thousand im sure as mentioned above sadly its not that easy    Report

13/05/2008, 3:24 PM ncfclad Joined on 29/04/2008 Posts 280 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing Of course its difficult to include all that as we dont know how much it cost, I just thought it was interesting to see how much on transfer fees alone.    Report

13/05/2008, 3:36 PM kdncfc Joined on 29/09/2003 Posts 663 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing Even allowing for any other fees I'd be very surprised if there wasn't at least a 7 million profit on player trading, even if half of that had been reinvested we'd be in a far better state than we are now.    Report

13/05/2008, 4:01 PM colneycanary Joined on 27/04/2008 Posts 268 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing Different story his summer though! We don't have anyone who is worth much, apart from Croft and Marshall maybe. Its going to be all money going out with very little coming in.    Report

13/05/2008, 4:01 PM blahblahblah Joined on 11/05/2006 Nutty Nigels' Fence - Getting Splinters Posts 3,687 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing  kdncfc wrote: Even allowing for any other fees I'd be very surprised if there wasn't at least a 7 million profit on player trading, even if half of that had been reinvested we'd be in a far better state than we are now. Would 3 years worth of loans come to about 3.5 million do you reckon ?  I do. It's getting a bit busy on this fence, nigel...    Report

13/05/2008, 4:10 PM ricardo Joined on 26/12/2003 Trowse Posts 1,659 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing The truth is that we have always been a club that buys cheap and sells big. It's been going on ever since I can remember and thats over 50 years. Do not believe any claptrap coming out of Carrow Road that claims that any transfer income is put towards new players. It never has been and never will be the case.    Report

13/05/2008, 4:11 PM Citizen Journalist Foghorn Joined on 06/01/2004 Norwich Posts 6,842 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing Agents fees arent a great deal, im sure they are published each year in the press. “You can run it for the very short term and gamble everything on success, which has led to a number of clubs getting into very, very serious financial trouble or you can run it on a longer term basis for the benefit of the community." Neil Doncaster    Report

13/05/2008, 4:35 PM Felixfan Joined on 14/08/2005 Felixstowe Posts 25 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing It is a fact of life that bums on seats do not pay the wages so the shortfall has to be met from profits on player sales,parachute money or the much maligned off-field activity.    Report

13/05/2008, 4:35 PM The Lord Joined on 20/07/2004 Posts 383 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing I think 'ncfc lad' realises there is more to it finacially then ins and outs of transfer fees, but never-the-less its still an interesting post as its nice to see what we actually paid and recieved for players for those that simply see the numbers don't forget the vast majority of these transfers such as ashton, the money recieved will not all arrive in the same financial period, often its in installments and probably set-off against building costs, other players wages, non-playing staff and sundry costs to name a few MOTM - The Referee, a magnificant performance from him, 10/10 once more    Report

13/05/2008, 4:55 PM 1st Wazzock Joined on 29/01/2004 Behind the murky hillock Posts 819 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing  ncfclad wrote: Just been having look at our transfer fees from the last 3 years. Doncaster said before the Earnie sale that the £2m loan from the turners will mean we wont need to sell any players. So lets look at the fees just for this season. There is a profit of £3.4m this season from transfer fees plus the £1.1m that we dont need to pay for Strihavka that we agreed earlier on this season. So we should have around £4.5m to spend this summer, obviously that is unlikely. 2007/08 Season IN Matty Pattison £500,000 David Strihavka £240,000 Jamie Cureton £800,000 Darel Russell £410,000 David Marshall £1,000,000 £2,950,000 OUT Joe Lewis £400,000 Chris Brown £400,000 Robert Earnshaw £3,500,000 Dickson Etuhu £1,500,000 Youssef Safri £250,000 Andy Hughes £200,000 Jurgen Colin £100,000 £6,350,000 2006/07 Season IN Chris Brown £275,000 Simon Lappin £50,000 Luke Chadwick £200,000 Lee Croft £700,000 £1,225,000 OUT Leon Mckenzie £600,000 Robert Green £2,000,000 £2,600,000 2005/06 Season IN Robert Earnshaw £3,000,000 Dickson Etuhu £600,000 Jurgen Colin £260,000 Andy Hughes £500,000 Carl Robinson £50,000 £4,410,000 OUT Dean Ashton £7,125,000 Damien Francis £2,250,000 Thomas Helveg £169,000 Mattias Svensson £100,000 Mattias Jonson £700,000 £10,344,000 Total Incoming £8,585,000 Outgoing £19,294,000 Looks to me like they have pumped loads of money in    Report

13/05/2008, 5:01 PM Mr.Carrow Joined on 06/12/2003 Posts 1,262 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing It all has to be viewed in the context of the fact that the club have received £14m parachute payments over and above ordinary income during that period, which should have allowed the managers far more scope in the transfer market.    Report

13/05/2008, 7:16 PM Jonny 5 Joined on 17/12/2007 Posts 107 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing A lot of the fees aren't straight lump sums either, I'm pretty sure with McKenzie and Green we receive the money slowly depending on apprences/goals. Also half the transfer fees published in the press are guesses or the clubs straight out lying. And ever time a player signs a new contract they will get a nice signing on fee, and all the "free" transfers have one off payments to the players so it really is impossible to tell. I do think we have taken more than we have spent, but if you add in the season before when we bought Hucks, McKenzie etc then it might start to even out a bit. I think there will be cash for Roeder, a few million I guess. I also think nearly every transfer fee will be "undisclosed" as it is never polite to go around shouting how much money you have    Report

13/05/2008, 7:24 PM kdncfc Joined on 29/09/2003 Posts 663 Re: Last 3 years - £19.3m transfer fees incoming - £8.6m transfer fees outgoing  Jonny 5 wrote: A lot of the fees aren't straight lump sums either, I'm pretty sure with McKenzie and Green we receive the money slowly depending on apprences/goals. Also half the transfer fees published in the press are guesses or the clubs straight out lying. And ever time a player signs a new contract they will get a nice signing on fee, and all the "free" transfers have one off payments to the players so it really is impossible to tell. I do think we have taken more than we have spent, but if you add in the season before when we bought Hucks, McKenzie etc then it might start to even out a bit. I think there will be cash for Roeder, a few million I guess. I also think nearly every transfer fee will be "undisclosed" as it is never polite to go around shouting how much money you have A lot of the fees were recieved in instalments but you can also buy players and pay for them in stages so it doesn't really make any difference as long as you know you are going to get the money.    Report

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