Norwich
2006/07
23.771
0.627
208
2005/06
24.116
3.065
62.1
214
2004/05
37.426
9.166
45.2
201
2003/04
13.928
-3.265
185
2002/03
12.965
-4.681
77.1
170
2001/02
15.271
0.440
54.2
167
2000/01
9.391
0.976
86.4
162
1999/00
7.696
-0.754
88.7
143
1998/99
6.236
-2.966
91.6
109
1997/98
6.910
0.600
65.5
96
1996/97
6.271
-1.176
61.1
90
1995/96
6.530
0.224
106
1994/95
7.855
1.111
1993/94
9.477
0.863
Ipswich
10.597
-3.511
93.4
179
17.482
-3.166
69.3
182
19.888
1.249
71.8
229
25.532
-8.270
73.6
245
37.376
-3.297
64.7
247
28.924
2.081
55.1
212
9.957
2.127
85.5
181
7.949
-0.001
75.5
174
8.658
-1.414
56.5
8.001
1.118
54.0
379
4.593
-1.931
95.8
432
6.851
-1.150
137
7.203
0.815
107
1992/93
5.849
0.606
1991/92
3.514
Thought some of you folks might like the info to get your teeth into?
Make of it what you will.
OTBC
BlyBlyBabes wrote: Norwich Financial Overview Year Turnover Pre-tax profit Wages / Turnover ratio (%) Employees 2006/07 23.771 0.627 208 2005/06 24.116 3.065 62.1 214 2004/05 37.426 9.166 45.2 201 2003/04 13.928 -3.265 185 2002/03 12.965 -4.681 77.1 170 2001/02 15.271 0.440 54.2 167 2000/01 9.391 0.976 86.4 162 1999/00 7.696 -0.754 88.7 143 1998/99 6.236 -2.966 91.6 109 1997/98 6.910 0.600 65.5 96 1996/97 6.271 -1.176 61.1 90 1995/96 6.530 0.224 106 1994/95 7.855 1.111 1993/94 9.477 0.863 Ipswich Financial Overview Year Turnover Pre-tax profit Wages / Turnover ratio (%) Employees 2005/06 10.597 -3.511 93.4 179 2004/05 17.482 -3.166 69.3 182 2003/04 19.888 1.249 71.8 229 2002/03 25.532 -8.270 73.6 245 2001/02 37.376 -3.297 64.7 247 2000/01 28.924 2.081 55.1 212 1999/00 9.957 2.127 85.5 181 1998/99 7.949 -0.001 75.5 174 1997/98 8.658 -1.414 56.5 143 1996/97 8.001 1.118 54.0 379 1995/96 4.593 -1.931 95.8 432 1994/95 6.851 -1.150 137 1993/94 7.203 0.815 107 1992/93 5.849 0.606 1991/92 3.514 Thought some of you folks might like the info to get your teeth into? Make of it what you will. OTBC
http://www.footballeconomy.com
Ralph Wright wrote:Oddily enough the binners own figures aren't quite the same.They state that in 2005/2006 the turnover was £16.4m not the absurd £10.597m as claimed above.The loss is given as £2.7m not £3.5 as claimed.unlike the above I'll happily list my source - http://www.ipswichtownfirst.co.uk/viewnews.asp?id=205Make of somebody, constantly posting attacks on our club, what you will
It's not our club walfy.
It's Delia's club.
Learn that.
Now off to bed, it's late.
Mr.Carrow wrote:One thing that stands out straight away is that whilst we are constantly told we are a "loss-making Championship club" we have actually made profits in nine of the last fourteen years. Puts a slightly different "spin" on things doesn`t it.......?
Mr. Carrow, I realise it's difficult for you to not sound like a broken record, but why don't you dust the record off sometimes and at least provide criticism of your own club while giving it the appearance of being a fresh sound.
For example, assuming the input provided by Bly is correct, you could continue to have a crack at NCFC owners while, at the same time, making a stab at being objective about the financial performance of Norwich vs Ipswich during the 10 seasons of the above period that Delia and Michael have assumed control of Norwich. You could point out that it's absolutely shocking that Ipswich have achieved a cumulative turnover over ten seasons that is higher than Norwich have, albeit the difference is marginal. You could then soften this stinging criticism by making the small concession that, while Ipswich have encountered a net pre-tax loss of 13 million pounds over that period, Norwich have been fiscally responsible, showing a cumulative 2 million pre-tax profit. You could then cut NCFC to the quick by offering biting comments that the cumulative 2 million is hardly enough to keep a chicken alive and a more enlightened approach needs to be pursued, while making a grudging concession that Norwich have at least been solvent enough to pay their bills while the folks down the road have left creditors trailing in Ipswich generated dung.
Do you see, Mr. Carrow, how it is possible to continue to put forth your rapier like thrusts into the heart of those that manage the affairs of NCFC while, at the same time, make it clear to all and sundry that you do so in an entirely objective manner, as you will strive to seek out the good in your own club, small that it may be.
YankeeCanary wrote: Mr.Carrow wrote:One thing that stands out straight away is that whilst we are constantly told we are a "loss-making Championship club" we have actually made profits in nine of the last fourteen years. Puts a slightly different "spin" on things doesn`t it.......? Mr. Carrow, I realise it's difficult for you to not sound like a broken record, but why don't you dust the record off sometimes and at least provide criticism of your own club while giving it the appearance of being a fresh sound. For example, assuming the input provided by Bly is correct, you could continue to have a crack at NCFC owners while, at the same time, making a stab at being objective about the financial performance of Norwich vs Ipswich during the 10 seasons of the above period that Delia and Michael have assumed control of Norwich. You could point out that it's absolutely shocking that Ipswich have achieved a cumulative turnover over ten seasons that is higher than Norwich have, albeit the difference is marginal. You could then soften this stinging criticism by making the small concession that, while Ipswich have encountered a net pre-tax loss of 13 million pounds over that period, Norwich have been fiscally responsible, showing a cumulative 2 million pre-tax profit. You could then cut NCFC to the quick by offering biting comments that the cumulative 2 million is hardly enough to keep a chicken alive and a more enlightened approach needs to be pursued, while making a grudging concession that Norwich have at least been solvent enough to pay their bills while the folks down the road have left creditors trailing in Ipswich generated dung. Do you see, Mr. Carrow, how it is possible to continue to put forth your rapier like thrusts into the heart of those that manage the affairs of NCFC while, at the same time, make it clear to all and sundry that you do so in an entirely objective manner, as you will strive to seek out the good in your own club, small that it may be.
That's hardly fair Yankee.
Bly's only comment is "make of it what you will"
I don't see how that can be construed as an attack on the club.
One thing that is patently clear is that Ipswich have been fiscally irresponsible.
But then we all knew that didn't we?
ricardo wrote: YankeeCanary wrote: Mr.Carrow wrote:One thing that stands out straight away is that whilst we are constantly told we are a "loss-making Championship club" we have actually made profits in nine of the last fourteen years. Puts a slightly different "spin" on things doesn`t it.......? Mr. Carrow, I realise it's difficult for you to not sound like a broken record, but why don't you dust the record off sometimes and at least provide criticism of your own club while giving it the appearance of being a fresh sound. For example, assuming the input provided by Bly is correct, you could continue to have a crack at NCFC owners while, at the same time, making a stab at being objective about the financial performance of Norwich vs Ipswich during the 10 seasons of the above period that Delia and Michael have assumed control of Norwich. You could point out that it's absolutely shocking that Ipswich have achieved a cumulative turnover over ten seasons that is higher than Norwich have, albeit the difference is marginal. You could then soften this stinging criticism by making the small concession that, while Ipswich have encountered a net pre-tax loss of 13 million pounds over that period, Norwich have been fiscally responsible, showing a cumulative 2 million pre-tax profit. You could then cut NCFC to the quick by offering biting comments that the cumulative 2 million is hardly enough to keep a chicken alive and a more enlightened approach needs to be pursued, while making a grudging concession that Norwich have at least been solvent enough to pay their bills while the folks down the road have left creditors trailing in Ipswich generated dung. Do you see, Mr. Carrow, how it is possible to continue to put forth your rapier like thrusts into the heart of those that manage the affairs of NCFC while, at the same time, make it clear to all and sundry that you do so in an entirely objective manner, as you will strive to seek out the good in your own club, small that it may be. That's hardly fair Yankee. Bly's only comment is "make of it what you will" I don't see how that can be construed as an attack on the club. One thing that is patently clear is that Ipswich have been fiscally irresponsible. But then we all knew that didn't we?
Surely he's talking to Mr Carrow isn't he? Not Bly.
Thanks for the advice YC but in the limited time available to me i chose to make the point that jumped out at me first. As we are constantly told we are a loss-making club do you think this is evidence of misleading spin?
Comparing us and ipswich is a totally pointless waste of time. Totally different situations and scenarios. For example you point out that their income has been higher over this period but neglect to add that they have had several Prem/Europe/play-off years in that period.
Mr.Carrow wrote: Comparing us and ipswich is a totally pointless waste of time.
Comparing us and ipswich is a totally pointless waste of time.
There Babes! Even Mr. Carrow thinks your thread is a pointless waste of time
macdougalls perm wrote: ricardo wrote: YankeeCanary wrote: Mr.Carrow wrote:One thing that stands out straight away is that whilst we are constantly told we are a "loss-making Championship club" we have actually made profits in nine of the last fourteen years. Puts a slightly different "spin" on things doesn`t it.......? Mr. Carrow, I realise it's difficult for you to not sound like a broken record, but why don't you dust the record off sometimes and at least provide criticism of your own club while giving it the appearance of being a fresh sound. For example, assuming the input provided by Bly is correct, you could continue to have a crack at NCFC owners while, at the same time, making a stab at being objective about the financial performance of Norwich vs Ipswich during the 10 seasons of the above period that Delia and Michael have assumed control of Norwich. You could point out that it's absolutely shocking that Ipswich have achieved a cumulative turnover over ten seasons that is higher than Norwich have, albeit the difference is marginal. You could then soften this stinging criticism by making the small concession that, while Ipswich have encountered a net pre-tax loss of 13 million pounds over that period, Norwich have been fiscally responsible, showing a cumulative 2 million pre-tax profit. You could then cut NCFC to the quick by offering biting comments that the cumulative 2 million is hardly enough to keep a chicken alive and a more enlightened approach needs to be pursued, while making a grudging concession that Norwich have at least been solvent enough to pay their bills while the folks down the road have left creditors trailing in Ipswich generated dung. Do you see, Mr. Carrow, how it is possible to continue to put forth your rapier like thrusts into the heart of those that manage the affairs of NCFC while, at the same time, make it clear to all and sundry that you do so in an entirely objective manner, as you will strive to seek out the good in your own club, small that it may be. That's hardly fair Yankee. Bly's only comment is "make of it what you will" I don't see how that can be construed as an attack on the club. One thing that is patently clear is that Ipswich have been fiscally irresponsible. But then we all knew that didn't we? Surely he's talking to Mr Carrow isn't he? Not Bly.
You are correct Mac.
Apologies all round
nutty nigel wrote: Mr.Carrow wrote: Comparing us and ipswich is a totally pointless waste of time. There Babes! Even Mr. Carrow thinks your thread is a pointless waste of time
Yes nutty I agree, it is an oddly silly thing for Mr Carrow to say!
What shall we give him - 100 lines to write? Or 100 steps to climb before supper?
Ralph Wright demonstrates his intimate knowledge of the Binners finances once again.
You must be spending a lot of time on those ITFC websites Ralphy, anything you'd like to share with us, we're your friends you know......
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